And I agree with the value of working out your small space model and then moving forward. As [info] - personaldachelle says, non-SF-F fandom just doesn't spend as much time thinking and talking about what it's doing. Part of that might be that anime and rockfic people tend to be younger, but that's an initial assumption.
I'd love to see this explored, too. My first thought was "maybe you need some kind of critical mass of fans before you reach introspection stage?" But that can't be right, because anime fandom, at least, is huge. (My impression is "all of Japan!" but that is not correct, any more than all of the U.S. is into American football. It is, I understand, far more culturally acceptable, with commercially published fanfiction and all that, so--critical mass reached, right?) And certainly the fandom I'm used to thinking of as SFF fandom (congoing fandom, literary, book, old school SFF, Scary Ponies Oh No) is old enough if that was the cause, yet I don't see a lot of Sherlock Holmes fandom meta on Metafandom. (But, um, Google finds some, so... maybe age is a factor? Quick! List all various fandom subcultures by age!)
Oh, and to further your Idol RPS knowledge: this icon is a chibi my pal [info] - personalali_wildgoose made of Ryan Seacrest and Simon Cowell. I write Ryan/Simon, when I'm not writing HP, and Rymon is sort of the perennial "old faithful" ship of the fandom, and I ♥ them.
I ship it!
Rockfic is music rpf. When certain "mediafandom" slashers got interested in the Fall Out Boy cluster of bands there was discussion that because they were the ones writing the rpf it was different than all other musician rpf, and should be called something different, mostly bandom. The old school rockfic chicks, the ones who've been writing Who and Beatles and Stones slash since the 70s, were like, "um?"
I see! Slashers are clearly special snowflakes! This would make me Annoyed As All Hell if someone tried to do in my backyard. What, are you too good to be a rockfic writer? BRIAN EPSTEIN DISAPPROVES.
I am really digging that you said that! I admit, I've been sort of roughed up in the past by those assumptions—and I don't think you were making them here, at all.
I have in the past, though. Not online, because until a couple of months ago I was a silent lurker who lurked silently, but--good thing to remember. Adding "fandom is multifaceted and huge, you have never seen all of it" to "friends don't let friends drink and post" and "not everyone is like you" and "if lots of people are reading you wrong, it's probably you, not them" to the list of Useful Internet Knowledge.
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Date: 2009-06-09 07:59 pm (UTC)I'd love to see this explored, too. My first thought was "maybe you need some kind of critical mass of fans before you reach introspection stage?" But that can't be right, because anime fandom, at least, is huge. (My impression is "all of Japan!" but that is not correct, any more than all of the U.S. is into American football. It is, I understand, far more culturally acceptable, with commercially published fanfiction and all that, so--critical mass reached, right?) And certainly the fandom I'm used to thinking of as SFF fandom (congoing fandom, literary, book, old school SFF, Scary Ponies Oh No) is old enough if that was the cause, yet I don't see a lot of Sherlock Holmes fandom meta on Metafandom. (But, um, Google finds some, so... maybe age is a factor? Quick! List all various fandom subcultures by age!)
Oh, and to further your Idol RPS knowledge: this icon is a chibi my pal [info] - personalali_wildgoose made of Ryan Seacrest and Simon Cowell. I write Ryan/Simon, when I'm not writing HP, and Rymon is sort of the perennial "old faithful" ship of the fandom, and I ♥ them.
I ship it!
Rockfic is music rpf. When certain "mediafandom" slashers got interested in the Fall Out Boy cluster of bands there was discussion that because they were the ones writing the rpf it was different than all other musician rpf, and should be called something different, mostly bandom. The old school rockfic chicks, the ones who've been writing Who and Beatles and Stones slash since the 70s, were like, "um?"
I see! Slashers are clearly special snowflakes! This would make me Annoyed As All Hell if someone tried to do in my backyard. What, are you too good to be a rockfic writer? BRIAN EPSTEIN DISAPPROVES.
I am really digging that you said that! I admit, I've been sort of roughed up in the past by those assumptions—and I don't think you were making them here, at all.
I have in the past, though. Not online, because until a couple of months ago I was a silent lurker who lurked silently, but--good thing to remember. Adding "fandom is multifaceted and huge, you have never seen all of it" to "friends don't let friends drink and post" and "not everyone is like you" and "if lots of people are reading you wrong, it's probably you, not them" to the list of Useful Internet Knowledge.